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scemdonmez
Hello,

I just finished 116cm ntn 76#@25,5'' target bow. it is not covered yet.

Cem
scemdonmez
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Dusan
Hey , man looks great ! 25,5 " ? No more ? Or this is norm for puta bows ?Very , very nice bow- congratulation.
Adam Karpowicz
Very nice work Cem, excellent symmetrical tiller. For a target bow, to make it more "bol yay", I would make the limbs bend slightly closer to the grip. This will lower the weight and reduce stack at longer draws.

Adam
Jos?Dom
Very nice puta bow. I'd believe a 45" bow would take a longer draw.

I'd like to know how long did it take to finish it.

Congratulations. It's good to see your work, especially coming from a real Turkish bowyer. I think you're the only one or there's a second to.
Bede
Cem,
Good work. I like the shape of the drawn bow. Have you measured the force-draw curve yet?
arsilan
We are pride on you.
Kyudohund
Congratulation Cem! Very good shape! I like your work.

Peter
jkekoni
Very cool.

Please post a braced picture and a unbraced picture.
scemdonmez
Thanks for comments friends.
Adam: My master,teacher thanks again. Sal is not bend close the grip, I think it is because of little reflexs of grip.Grip is not straight as a Tirkes bow.

Jkekoni: I send strung picture

Arsilian: Sağol birader

Bede: Sorry I do not understand '' force draw curve''.

JoseDom:İt take 1,5 year start to finish. Making period about 6 month, drying period is one year.

Dusan: Turkish arrows is short, bow can bend 27-28'' . This bow is Bol Yay(large bow)

Cem
Dusan
I know Cem, but i low l??ng draw . 27-28 sound better. Nice bow. If i was luky man , about year,or 2 i made and finish and shoting somthing like this :roll:
jkekoni
Force draw curve means poundage as the function of draw.


10 cm draw 12 #
20 cm draw 45
30 cm draw 65
40 cm draw 75
50 cm draw 85
60 cm draw 95#
70 cm draw 100#

After measuring you will draw them on paper or excel. This is force draw curve.
jack farrell
Cem; Greetings from Texas. This is a nice bow, It is a target bow? Puta means target?

There are many here on atarn who would enjoy having working plans for such a bow. Are you free to post this plan for us? Much appreciated. Jack.
scemdonmez
Jkekoni:

Thank you very much.

Jack:

I hope you are fine and I hope I can see you again next WTAF.
This is target bow. Puta means target.
Im free to post this plan for all of you, please feel free.

Cem
jack farrell
Cem; I am well but not able to get to this WTAF, but want to go again; such an opportunity!

But I am asking if you would show the construction details of a Turkish target bow. How thick is the horn and how long. The shapwe of the wood splices. jhow thick the sinew. All the details. this is what we would like to know.

How is puta different than hedef?

Thankyou for your generosity. Jack
Bede
Cem,
What is mentioned above is what I meant. The force draw curve is a static measurement of the weight of the bow at different draw lengths. It is usually done in pounds per inch because the concept was developed in America. It can be done in Kgs per Metre too.

You draw a graph with the Y axis as draw weight and the X axis as draw length. You measure the draw weight per inch on a scale. then the area under the curve represents the energy stored in the bow. If the line is straight then the bow is performing "normally". The long bow has a slightly concave curve. A short straight bow would be more concave. On a Turkish bow you would expect the curve to bulge upwards in the first half.

That descriptiion is very approximate. The idea of the curve is to measure how much energy is available to the arrow.
scemdonmez
Bede:

Thank you so much , I will try to measure it.

Jack:
Horn is 5mm thick and 49cm long, 3 cm wide. Snew is 2,7mm.
Sal :27 cm long ,3.2cm wide
Kasan: 17cm long, 2,2cm wide ( middle)
Grip: 12cm long, 2,7cm wide ,3,5 cm thick
Tip: 9 cm long, 1,3 cm wide

İn the begining I use 2cm thick,4 cm wide and 55cm long parallel grain maple. I bend it in the hot water.Maple stay in th form about 1 month. Glue is sturgeon air bladder ,snew and hide glue. Snew is moose and 3 layer. After the snewing drying period is 1 year.

Puta bow's unstrung shape must be boat shape( Tekne kuram)

Puta = hedef= Target

I send some photos

Cem

I send some photos.
scemdonmez
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