Reconfiguring the Silk Road
Symposium for anyone interested; Reconfiguring the Silk Road: New Research on East-West Exchange in Antiquity
http://www.penn.museum/silkroad/events_symposium.php
http://www.penn.museum/silkroad/events_symposium.php
"This wall-hanging was found sewn to the bottom portion of a pair of pants. Wall hanging with warrior and centaur design, ca 2nd century BC-2nd century CE"
How cool :D
Very interesting Jack.
How cool :D
Very interesting Jack.
One month till the Silk Road symposium in Philadelphia! Also, I missed this lecture series at the museum "Great Adventures along the Silk Road"
http://www.penn.museum/college-and-adul ... -road.html
Ash; As I have already seen the exhibit three times, I am familiar with the tapestry. It is said that people are already basing Phd dissertations on this unusual piece of cloth; probably one of the most important textiles in the world, and certainly almost unique, to some. Looks like a Sogdian piece to me. Greek influence is also seen in Buddhist sculpture in this vicinity. It appears to be a portrait of an individual and not a random work.
http://www.penn.museum/college-and-adul ... -road.html
Ash; As I have already seen the exhibit three times, I am familiar with the tapestry. It is said that people are already basing Phd dissertations on this unusual piece of cloth; probably one of the most important textiles in the world, and certainly almost unique, to some. Looks like a Sogdian piece to me. Greek influence is also seen in Buddhist sculpture in this vicinity. It appears to be a portrait of an individual and not a random work.
Well, time come to true. Slaws waiting thausends years ... Slav = agricultural farmer, Slaws language = "Inoeuropean language" -his basic. All Indoeuropeans languages is descendents or very inluence from Prehistoric Slaw language. And who vith his language live from Kamtchatka to France like no iterrupted line ? History books must very change.
I know- its sound for you like i am nationalist fanatic :lol: , no . Only time was come ... Silk road was only part of this changes .
I know- its sound for you like i am nationalist fanatic :lol: , no . Only time was come ... Silk road was only part of this changes .
Dusan; Your meaning is not so clear to me. India is the Indo in Indo-European, as in Indo-European languages.
I know , its need more than fue words explain such teorie. Vith mi anglish ... :lol:
I sugested here fue times old Slavs theorie about history. Its so extraordinery diferent vith compare todays interpretation that i understand that its looks like crazy mind ...Ok. I will try shortly.
All history is now based Greco /Romans culture . China has his "separated"variation of history. Evan try found his "chines" ancestors vith special genes.Histori wrights vinners. Vinners was always hunters x agriculturals cros tribes . Slavs was always defeat. Pure hunters was evan killed evrerywhere - in future. /Indians, Australians aborigines etc./
Well, if you remember - first simbolic human conflict form Bible was between agricultural Kain and Hunter Abel :lol: God love hunter Abel and angree to Kain because he kill his brother... Very simbolic explain very old history.
I think its loks like Slavs agricultural people ocupated all corners in world where can live vith agriculture. In this old days multiplay , thanks his stile of live like rats.All this "ocean" of people have same language and probably start his ocupation fron central Asia first to India ... (Mohen- Dzo- Daro village ...)Only this times Abels peoples are winners
Oposite - hunters nomads was always in small tribes groups. Every was separated vith his diferent languages. ( To this days you can see this everyvhere in Afrika, Central Asia. )Hunters dont understand agriculturals and hate his stile of live /to this days :lol: / Only hunters tribes who attack and like violence leaders live vith agriculturals can succesfull made his"heavens" .First hunters masters was probably more friendly, but i think that next croses borns from Slavs womans was that real bad , uncompromising cheafs. Vith any feells to both parents.
This is what we call civilisation. Small soldiers like mafia group owned big group of seatled people- Vith his work can make big cities, cumulate nice things- trasures for gods . This is what we call culture.
Problem is that only one thing is real propf of all this teorie - Slav language and writing. Nothing more. Slaws dont make any piramids or mumies from tthemself. He burned his death parents. All what maked was mostly from wood, natural fibres.
If you try understand what i say , you must know very wel one of Slav languages. Any of tham. We have no problem understand each other for this thausend years.Because we have one source of all words.
This "Indo European" teorie was in born "Indo - German" :lol: , only next Germans like big powerful European cheafs reconsils to others too :lol:
All kentum -/ hunters / languages was very influenced from satem- Slaws languages. All alphabet stay in old Slavs slaves. No one warrior - Assirian or Siberians tribes like Mongols or Arab or another nomads dont creat alphabet evan dont need most than 60 % todays words .
This is big thema need more explain and long discuss. I am not that man who can do this :lol: But i feel duty commemorate this theorie.
I think from this point is Turfan mumies and fact that european tipe of people living in Mongol-China territori only small stone to this puzzle.
I sugested here fue times old Slavs theorie about history. Its so extraordinery diferent vith compare todays interpretation that i understand that its looks like crazy mind ...Ok. I will try shortly.
All history is now based Greco /Romans culture . China has his "separated"variation of history. Evan try found his "chines" ancestors vith special genes.Histori wrights vinners. Vinners was always hunters x agriculturals cros tribes . Slavs was always defeat. Pure hunters was evan killed evrerywhere - in future. /Indians, Australians aborigines etc./
Well, if you remember - first simbolic human conflict form Bible was between agricultural Kain and Hunter Abel :lol: God love hunter Abel and angree to Kain because he kill his brother... Very simbolic explain very old history.
I think its loks like Slavs agricultural people ocupated all corners in world where can live vith agriculture. In this old days multiplay , thanks his stile of live like rats.All this "ocean" of people have same language and probably start his ocupation fron central Asia first to India ... (Mohen- Dzo- Daro village ...)Only this times Abels peoples are winners
Oposite - hunters nomads was always in small tribes groups. Every was separated vith his diferent languages. ( To this days you can see this everyvhere in Afrika, Central Asia. )Hunters dont understand agriculturals and hate his stile of live /to this days :lol: / Only hunters tribes who attack and like violence leaders live vith agriculturals can succesfull made his"heavens" .First hunters masters was probably more friendly, but i think that next croses borns from Slavs womans was that real bad , uncompromising cheafs. Vith any feells to both parents.
This is what we call civilisation. Small soldiers like mafia group owned big group of seatled people- Vith his work can make big cities, cumulate nice things- trasures for gods . This is what we call culture.
Problem is that only one thing is real propf of all this teorie - Slav language and writing. Nothing more. Slaws dont make any piramids or mumies from tthemself. He burned his death parents. All what maked was mostly from wood, natural fibres.
If you try understand what i say , you must know very wel one of Slav languages. Any of tham. We have no problem understand each other for this thausend years.Because we have one source of all words.
This "Indo European" teorie was in born "Indo - German" :lol: , only next Germans like big powerful European cheafs reconsils to others too :lol:
All kentum -/ hunters / languages was very influenced from satem- Slaws languages. All alphabet stay in old Slavs slaves. No one warrior - Assirian or Siberians tribes like Mongols or Arab or another nomads dont creat alphabet evan dont need most than 60 % todays words .
This is big thema need more explain and long discuss. I am not that man who can do this :lol: But i feel duty commemorate this theorie.
I think from this point is Turfan mumies and fact that european tipe of people living in Mongol-China territori only small stone to this puzzle.
I just returned from Philadelphia and the Silk Road symposium. Actually my friends, you did not miss much except some camaraderie from other participants. I brought my Subeixi bow, now finished except for the wrapping and tillering. Though there was good enough interest from the other participants, the heavy duty guys could have cared less and did not care to engage in archery discussion whatever.
If I had brought the results of a DNA study of Chinese millet, the biggies might have peed in their pants. This type of discussion had the audience going home and to the coffee table in droves.
The Penn museum is an Indiana Jones type of place, a hundred year old institution that has mounted 400 archaeological expedition bringing back such items as a twelve ton sphinks.
I will make a post soon on items from the Penn under images.
If I had brought the results of a DNA study of Chinese millet, the biggies might have peed in their pants. This type of discussion had the audience going home and to the coffee table in droves.
The Penn museum is an Indiana Jones type of place, a hundred year old institution that has mounted 400 archaeological expedition bringing back such items as a twelve ton sphinks.
I will make a post soon on items from the Penn under images.
Looks like you enjoy good coffee , Jack :lol:
if you read chinese history,chinese structure not depend on ancestry/dna, like America, has no pure ancestry American but same believe in axiology,in the result of china 5000 years max dna, we still find the many differ trait of face in differ province and many same trait in one province or area, the language of chinese also greet differ in each province near foreign language
in the differ tribe or nation marriage ,for example, the chinese love the nomadism woman very excellent strength for do hardjob and wide pelvis not othen die for born baby also she is can do a good ride , but need suffer their sheep smell on skin,from ancestry we accept a man is chinese cause his father is chinese, if his father not chinese he is not chinese, if the foreigner speak chinese and know the chinese comity we are not take them as foreigner,never mind what wife you marriage what a man marriage your daughter, i think it is same in Asia or Europe patrilineal society
in the differ tribe or nation marriage ,for example, the chinese love the nomadism woman very excellent strength for do hardjob and wide pelvis not othen die for born baby also she is can do a good ride , but need suffer their sheep smell on skin,from ancestry we accept a man is chinese cause his father is chinese, if his father not chinese he is not chinese, if the foreigner speak chinese and know the chinese comity we are not take them as foreigner,never mind what wife you marriage what a man marriage your daughter, i think it is same in Asia or Europe patrilineal society
Jiao; If the Symposium discussion had been about Human DNA then there would have been good interest. However the subject was DNA of millet grain food crop. As I tell it to others it now seems unfair to have a debate in front of 200 people when only 5 or 6 people in the room are interested.
About human DNA studies, it was stated that not enough tests have been done so that there is a model of how to interpret these. For instance a DNA study of modern Hungary shows very diverse DNA and not greatly related to ancient Eastern Hunn DNA. But there is no comparative study of ancient Eastern Hunn DNA to study its diversity.
About human DNA studies, it was stated that not enough tests have been done so that there is a model of how to interpret these. For instance a DNA study of modern Hungary shows very diverse DNA and not greatly related to ancient Eastern Hunn DNA. But there is no comparative study of ancient Eastern Hunn DNA to study its diversity.
Jack, Madyars have nothing common with Huns. 8 Madyars tribes settled in very densely occupied territory the Slavs and their current style of the DNA was 70% with us. The old "nomadic" have very little now.
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here your can use google translate all about huns history in china recording:
http://www.baidu.com/s?wd=%D0%D9%C5%AB% ... sugT=12430
maybe has 1000000 huns in top amount . south huns and han attack north huns, maybe they are go today northeast china--Baikal(finally good base of nomadism)---Ural--Europe, i guess lots huns die on road,the -30-50 Siberian and the big forest, if 1000000 huns go Europe successful 8) ,huns as a nation disappear in china , but the tradition still save in china
http://club.china.com/data/thread/1011/ ... 7/4_1.html
http://baike.baidu.com/view/4176399.htm
http://zhidao.baidu.com/question/182268973.html
http://www.cctv.com/program/dqsdgs/2004 ... 2909.shtml
when the north huns go, the south huns（50000）still living in china, they has the han emperor's name, has his land and his emperor , take marriage chinese as glory，when han dynasty end they are still loyal for a country has a han emperor and that country unify all china ，but the famous chinese machinator split huns a five part and no emperor for anti huns become too powerful, (in tang dynasty the turks as main chinese army they are trust turks too much) ,in Europe Attila also die cause machinator, till to A.D.406 , the huns build the country name " latter han" or first china dynasty name xia ,they are often use hun's way manage huns chinese way manage chinese,it seem in so many years we are respect his tradition and keep our tradition well ,maybe A.D.500, the huns name and nation disappear in china history,also in this time Europe huns end, they are good friend and best soldier but too tragic ability about politics,Mongol also, manchu too greet about politics keep in china for 300 years but still a big tragic, i think if chinese read the history they are rather agree huns control north china for ever, each tragic cause who has more and more selfish motives idea
http://www.baidu.com/s?wd=%D0%D9%C5%AB% ... sugT=12430
maybe has 1000000 huns in top amount . south huns and han attack north huns, maybe they are go today northeast china--Baikal(finally good base of nomadism)---Ural--Europe, i guess lots huns die on road,the -30-50 Siberian and the big forest, if 1000000 huns go Europe successful 8) ,huns as a nation disappear in china , but the tradition still save in china
http://club.china.com/data/thread/1011/ ... 7/4_1.html
http://baike.baidu.com/view/4176399.htm
http://zhidao.baidu.com/question/182268973.html
http://www.cctv.com/program/dqsdgs/2004 ... 2909.shtml
when the north huns go, the south huns（50000）still living in china, they has the han emperor's name, has his land and his emperor , take marriage chinese as glory，when han dynasty end they are still loyal for a country has a han emperor and that country unify all china ，but the famous chinese machinator split huns a five part and no emperor for anti huns become too powerful, (in tang dynasty the turks as main chinese army they are trust turks too much) ,in Europe Attila also die cause machinator, till to A.D.406 , the huns build the country name " latter han" or first china dynasty name xia ,they are often use hun's way manage huns chinese way manage chinese,it seem in so many years we are respect his tradition and keep our tradition well ,maybe A.D.500, the huns name and nation disappear in china history,also in this time Europe huns end, they are good friend and best soldier but too tragic ability about politics,Mongol also, manchu too greet about politics keep in china for 300 years but still a big tragic, i think if chinese read the history they are rather agree huns control north china for ever, each tragic cause who has more and more selfish motives idea