turkish puta bow
dear all,
77 pounds at 30 inch draw.
peter
77 pounds at 30 inch draw.
peter
Peter; A really grand bow and I bet it was a lot of work and waiting. About how many hours did it take you?
Hi Jack,
started exactly one year ago with cutting wood for three bows; this is the first one ready. Second waits for the last sinew layer and third body and horn is glued together. So i didn?t count the hours, but, as you know, its a lot. I don?t like nearly all works which has to be done until a bow is shootable, or ready; but when i see the result, i am deeply satisfied.
Peter
started exactly one year ago with cutting wood for three bows; this is the first one ready. Second waits for the last sinew layer and third body and horn is glued together. So i didn?t count the hours, but, as you know, its a lot. I don?t like nearly all works which has to be done until a bow is shootable, or ready; but when i see the result, i am deeply satisfied.
Peter
looks flawless.
did you use tepeliks to brace it or just the peg board?
did you use tepeliks to brace it or just the peg board?
For the first bracing i everytime use tepliks. For me its a must after opening the bow with the asa gezi. I think this two steps are the most important to get a balanced and "healthy" bow.
Congratulations, balance looks very well. What thick middle of sal and ntn? Handsome bow :)
Cem
Cem
Copy that.
Stunning bow! It looks very well made.
Stunning bow! It looks very well made.
Thank you guys!
Cem, middle of sal: 11,7mm (4 horn, middle of concave shape; 5 wood, lens shape; 3 sinew, straight on back), width 35mm, length of sal 30 cm, ntn: 127 cm. measurement of drawweight was done every inch, lasting ~10 sec/inch, so pulling the bow to 30 inches take over 3 1/2 minutes; shooting drawweight could be ~80 pounds.
Yesterday i shot commercial wooden arrows (32 gramm), draw ~27 inches, 30 m distance; one arrow missed the target, went through the arrow catchnet and left a hole! :lol:
Cem, middle of sal: 11,7mm (4 horn, middle of concave shape; 5 wood, lens shape; 3 sinew, straight on back), width 35mm, length of sal 30 cm, ntn: 127 cm. measurement of drawweight was done every inch, lasting ~10 sec/inch, so pulling the bow to 30 inches take over 3 1/2 minutes; shooting drawweight could be ~80 pounds.
Yesterday i shot commercial wooden arrows (32 gramm), draw ~27 inches, 30 m distance; one arrow missed the target, went through the arrow catchnet and left a hole! :lol:
I am just going to guess that Adam might say to straighten out the eye; the transition between the bending limb (Sal) and the ridged section Kasan).
I was in a Korean workshop when this was done. The limb was delicately heated on an electric hot plate and the apprentice worked the bow on a floor bench with his sock feet and the floor mat. It was dramatic how much effort and time was spent on just this part. The taste is to make a straight line out of this transition point. You might notice this on true Korean Horn bows.
But I am just making an observation and will let Adam advise in this case.
I was in a Korean workshop when this was done. The limb was delicately heated on an electric hot plate and the apprentice worked the bow on a floor bench with his sock feet and the floor mat. It was dramatic how much effort and time was spent on just this part. The taste is to make a straight line out of this transition point. You might notice this on true Korean Horn bows.
But I am just making an observation and will let Adam advise in this case.
I'd leave the tiller as it is, it looks fine for this bow. Nice work.
I like the bend betw. the tips and kasans sharper (smaller radius, but the same angle) and perhaps the kasans less round. Then there is no need for string bridges and the string can be longer = the brace height shorter and the power stroke longer. These are minor details, the bow will do very well with the 30in draw anyway.
Adam
I like the bend betw. the tips and kasans sharper (smaller radius, but the same angle) and perhaps the kasans less round. Then there is no need for string bridges and the string can be longer = the brace height shorter and the power stroke longer. These are minor details, the bow will do very well with the 30in draw anyway.
Adam
I love the shape of this bow, in my outsider eyes it looks perfect!
Straight kasan/ears are probably little bit shorter and less material, so will be lighter, but I like the rounded shape.
This is my model for future plans.
I just love it.
Peter, where is the thinnest section of the limb? How is made the taper?
Can you show pictures from the shaping process?
Straight kasan/ears are probably little bit shorter and less material, so will be lighter, but I like the rounded shape.
This is my model for future plans.
I just love it.
Peter, where is the thinnest section of the limb? How is made the taper?
Can you show pictures from the shaping process?
Thanx for your comments and advices.
The bridges i did for secure; next will have non. Now brace height is 19 cm at grip, 3 mm above belly at kasan end.
Ginni, thinnest part of sal is 11 mm thick and 33 mm wide, 3 cm from beginning of kasan.
on the picture below the single part in front (A1) is it; this was 15 mm thick, 40 mm wide. The widest part in sal, before sinewing, is 30 mm.
The bridges i did for secure; next will have non. Now brace height is 19 cm at grip, 3 mm above belly at kasan end.
Ginni, thinnest part of sal is 11 mm thick and 33 mm wide, 3 cm from beginning of kasan.
on the picture below the single part in front (A1) is it; this was 15 mm thick, 40 mm wide. The widest part in sal, before sinewing, is 30 mm.
Hello Peter,congratulations:almost perfect bow,beautiful shape.How much does it weigh(mass)?
Francesco
Francesco
Hi Francesco,
glad to hear from you! Last year i was in Perugia, but the phone didn?t work! So i went sad back to Ribola (Massa Marittima).
The bow weights 380 gramm, including string.
Hope to see you next time!
Peter
glad to hear from you! Last year i was in Perugia, but the phone didn?t work! So i went sad back to Ribola (Massa Marittima).
The bow weights 380 gramm, including string.
Hope to see you next time!
Peter
Peter, it looks like a magnificent bow to me! Got some maple now and will have to try making the next turkish one from this stuff.
Next time when I go to Austria I sure will have to pay you a vist ;-))
Congratulations, JJ
Next time when I go to Austria I sure will have to pay you a vist ;-))
Congratulations, JJ
JJ,
du bist jederzeit herzlich willkommen!
du bist jederzeit herzlich willkommen!
Peter,
Honestly, I do not know a lot about Turkish type bows but once I've made a decision to build one I would copy yours!
Excellent and great job! Enjoy it for a long time! :!:
Peter
Honestly, I do not know a lot about Turkish type bows but once I've made a decision to build one I would copy yours!
Excellent and great job! Enjoy it for a long time! :!:
Peter
Dear Peter,
i want to return your compliment. Your Hungarian ... i would do the same way :D
Peter
i want to return your compliment. Your Hungarian ... i would do the same way :D
Peter
Some more details :idea:
Beautiful bows :)
This is great!
Long bow, but good job.Congratulation.
Thanx guys!
Dusan, yes its very long, but i am 191cm / 6 feet 3 inches tall. So i guess to draw the bow right, should draw it more then 30 inches.
My Yumi i draw 38,2 inches.
Peter
Dusan, yes its very long, but i am 191cm / 6 feet 3 inches tall. So i guess to draw the bow right, should draw it more then 30 inches.
My Yumi i draw 38,2 inches.
Peter
:D i understand your problem... I am 196cm and vith 105 cm flight bow its looks like childrens game vith very haevy puppet :lol:
Finish ...
very nice ! If shoot like he looks good ...congrat.
it looks excelent
truly gorgeous bow!
good job!
good job!
alter verwalter ... weiche knie vor erfurcht :) tolles teil
some sort of speachless.
some sort of speachless.
Amazing...BRAVO!!!! Outstanding work you are truly an artist.
Peter; a true work of art. -j-
Peter,
Since all amazed words have already been posted by others, I can only say about your bow: it?s a flawless dream-bow! :D
Since all amazed words have already been posted by others, I can only say about your bow: it?s a flawless dream-bow! :D
Congrats. Peter, very nice.
Cem
Cem
Oh my God! Missed this post somehow :roll:
Beatyfull bow, looking perfect to my eyes!
Congrats!!!!
Schould we know some info about the paint job? What kind of materials did U used?
Cheers Zoltan
Beatyfull bow, looking perfect to my eyes!
Congrats!!!!
Schould we know some info about the paint job? What kind of materials did U used?
Cheers Zoltan
Wow! Now that's a proper finish :D
:shock: perfect
thank you all for your compliments!
traditionalists please stop reading here ......
Zoltan: on the fotos it looks like gold-decoration, but the seen colour depends on the angle of the light.
its painted with acrylic artist colour. i start with light-grey priming. then the decoration with ultramarine-blue (shadow) and titanium-white (light). a thin layer of gold over the whole bow, two layers cadmium-red. the blue/white underpainting you still can see very good. then the decoration in light-green and last the light points in gold.......
Peter
traditionalists please stop reading here ......
Zoltan: on the fotos it looks like gold-decoration, but the seen colour depends on the angle of the light.
its painted with acrylic artist colour. i start with light-grey priming. then the decoration with ultramarine-blue (shadow) and titanium-white (light). a thin layer of gold over the whole bow, two layers cadmium-red. the blue/white underpainting you still can see very good. then the decoration in light-green and last the light points in gold.......
Peter
Hi Peter,beautiful bow.The pattern of the decorations seems more Celtic/Germanic than middle-eastern,right?.The bow has a graceful shape too.What's the final draw weight and mass(I'm always curious)?
Bye
Francesco
Bye
Francesco
hi Francesco,
final bow-mass: 440 gramm, including string.
draw-weight (inbetween 5 sec.): 80 pounds
brace-height: 7 3/4 inches
measuring-time until full draw ~ 2 min:
inches / drawweight:
9 / 8,2
10 / 11,4
11 / 16,5
12 / 19,8
13 / 24,2
14 / 26,4
15 / 30,8
16 / 33,0
17 / 36,3
18 / 39,6 (at this point the string leaves the string-bridge)
19 / 42,9
20 / 45,1
21 / 47,3
22 / 49,5
23 / 51,7
24 / 53,9
25 / 57,2
26 / 60,5
27 / 63,8
28 / 67,1
29 / 71,5
30 / 77,0
Peter
final bow-mass: 440 gramm, including string.
draw-weight (inbetween 5 sec.): 80 pounds
brace-height: 7 3/4 inches
measuring-time until full draw ~ 2 min:
inches / drawweight:
9 / 8,2
10 / 11,4
11 / 16,5
12 / 19,8
13 / 24,2
14 / 26,4
15 / 30,8
16 / 33,0
17 / 36,3
18 / 39,6 (at this point the string leaves the string-bridge)
19 / 42,9
20 / 45,1
21 / 47,3
22 / 49,5
23 / 51,7
24 / 53,9
25 / 57,2
26 / 60,5
27 / 63,8
28 / 67,1
29 / 71,5
30 / 77,0
Peter
Francesco, i forgot:
you are something right about decoration-look.
some time ago i created different decoration designs. in spring i made some knots-sketches to fill empty space in one. then this begin to run. the decoration on this bow was the last i did, before i stopped this play with knots. i had the feeling to get crazy, if i go on!
this design was to good not to use it!
all tradition-fans: please firgive me.
sincerely
Peter
you are something right about decoration-look.
some time ago i created different decoration designs. in spring i made some knots-sketches to fill empty space in one. then this begin to run. the decoration on this bow was the last i did, before i stopped this play with knots. i had the feeling to get crazy, if i go on!
this design was to good not to use it!
all tradition-fans: please firgive me.
sincerely
Peter
Great decoration on a great bow... congratulations! Can we see some bigger pics?
I used acrylic colours, too. I didn?t like to have to wait months after each coat;-)
JJ
I used acrylic colours, too. I didn?t like to have to wait months after each coat;-)
JJ
hi JJ,
sorry, to less upload space! i still had to delete fotos on atarnet to add the last attachments. but if you send me your email adress to my pm, i can send you bigger fotos.
Peter
sorry, to less upload space! i still had to delete fotos on atarnet to add the last attachments. but if you send me your email adress to my pm, i can send you bigger fotos.
Peter