sight picture
I have a question about sight pictures when using a thumb ring.
When I use a mediteranian draw with my other bows My sight picture is such that the arrow is in line with the target. I have an anchor point with my western draw that puts my eye right behind the string and I can see when the arrow is inline with the taget using my peripheral vision.
However, In order to hit my target spot using a thumb ring I have to move my sight picture way to the left. In my peripheral vison the arrow is pointing about 18" to the left to hit the target center at 15 yds. See diagram below.
I have bare shafted my arrows and the bare arrows are grouping with the fletched arrows so I am confident that the arrows are well balanced to the bow.
Is this normal and something I need to get used to or am I still doing something way wrong.
Thanks,
Ray
When I use a mediteranian draw with my other bows My sight picture is such that the arrow is in line with the target. I have an anchor point with my western draw that puts my eye right behind the string and I can see when the arrow is inline with the taget using my peripheral vision.
However, In order to hit my target spot using a thumb ring I have to move my sight picture way to the left. In my peripheral vison the arrow is pointing about 18" to the left to hit the target center at 15 yds. See diagram below.
I have bare shafted my arrows and the bare arrows are grouping with the fletched arrows so I am confident that the arrows are well balanced to the bow.
Is this normal and something I need to get used to or am I still doing something way wrong.
Thanks,
Ray
Can you add the information: which side of the bow grip do you place your arrow? Is it the same side as you use for Mediterranean, or the opposite side?
Without getting into details now, I confirm that I also cannot shoot accurately with a thumb draw looking along the arrow shaft.
S.
Without getting into details now, I confirm that I also cannot shoot accurately with a thumb draw looking along the arrow shaft.
S.
Stephen,
Thanks for the reply.
With a Mediteranian draw I shoot off the left side of the bow. With the thumb ring I shoot off the right side.
I have to really work consciously to not push too hard on the arrow nock with my index finger when I use a thumb ring. I am afraid that if I used the left side of the bow with the thumb ring I would not be able to keep the arrow against the bow.
It makes sense to me that the sight picture would need to be moved over the thickness of the bow but I have to move it over drastically. The more I shoot the more consistent this is. My groups are shrinking but still hitting to the right of my line of sight.
Ray
Thanks for the reply.
With a Mediteranian draw I shoot off the left side of the bow. With the thumb ring I shoot off the right side.
I have to really work consciously to not push too hard on the arrow nock with my index finger when I use a thumb ring. I am afraid that if I used the left side of the bow with the thumb ring I would not be able to keep the arrow against the bow.
It makes sense to me that the sight picture would need to be moved over the thickness of the bow but I have to move it over drastically. The more I shoot the more consistent this is. My groups are shrinking but still hitting to the right of my line of sight.
Ray
Ray,
If you have the arrow directly under your eye when drawing with the thumb, you can have the arrow go even more to the right than usual. If you draw near the ear or past it like the Chinese and Japanese, your arrows should move closer to the target centre.
However, aiming is a very individual thing and is also dependent on your physiology.
If you have the arrow directly under your eye when drawing with the thumb, you can have the arrow go even more to the right than usual. If you draw near the ear or past it like the Chinese and Japanese, your arrows should move closer to the target centre.
However, aiming is a very individual thing and is also dependent on your physiology.
Bede,
I am drawing back by the ear. Mainly because that's the lentgh at wich my arrows ended up in order to spine correctly with the bow.
So what I am hearing from the two of you is that this is not abnormal. At this point I need to concentrate on continuing to get tighter groups and just get used to a different sight picture than I am used to.
Thanks guys,
Ray
I am drawing back by the ear. Mainly because that's the lentgh at wich my arrows ended up in order to spine correctly with the bow.
So what I am hearing from the two of you is that this is not abnormal. At this point I need to concentrate on continuing to get tighter groups and just get used to a different sight picture than I am used to.
Thanks guys,
Ray
Ray
Try to use somewhat softer arrows. With the ring the string jumps more to the side (bad technique) than with three fingers. This is what causes the arrow to hit the bow and the deflection. If you use softer arrows the deflection will be smaller or the arrow will go even to the other side, or, it is also possible, it will pass the bow cleanly. The deflection probably will not happen if you are able to twist the bow. I can not do it.
During the draw, try to put more weight on your thumb and less on the index finger.
To the sight picture. During aiming concentrate on the target. You will see two bows in front of you. Do not look at the arrow. Usually I put the target somewhere in between the two bows. If you have arrows which are deflected to much to the right , put the target closer to the right bow.
S?ndor
Try to use somewhat softer arrows. With the ring the string jumps more to the side (bad technique) than with three fingers. This is what causes the arrow to hit the bow and the deflection. If you use softer arrows the deflection will be smaller or the arrow will go even to the other side, or, it is also possible, it will pass the bow cleanly. The deflection probably will not happen if you are able to twist the bow. I can not do it.
During the draw, try to put more weight on your thumb and less on the index finger.
To the sight picture. During aiming concentrate on the target. You will see two bows in front of you. Do not look at the arrow. Usually I put the target somewhere in between the two bows. If you have arrows which are deflected to much to the right , put the target closer to the right bow.
S?ndor
As regards pressure with the forefinger, that is an error. You can avoid it by -
- folding middle, ring and little finger firmly into the palm.
- exerting strong pressure between the thumb and the middle finger
- relaxing the forefinger.
- folding middle, ring and little finger firmly into the palm.
- exerting strong pressure between the thumb and the middle finger
- relaxing the forefinger.