scythian style

Lukas,

congratulation! wonderful work! great piece of art in bow building.

Peter

very pretty curves. Tell us about the construction.

Looks good so far!

Is it horn, wood and sinew?

Draw picture please, this is a bowyers forum, not a painters forum.

Michael

thanks for nice words. it is hickory core , 3 mm horn , 3 layers sinew. limbs 3 cm - 2,3 cm. Leather and hickory make bow little to havy , about 430 gram
but I think bow will be not slow, we will see on chrono.I try to make video from shooting in this weekend.

Lukas; You have done a nice job. I looked at your other posts. This is how I recommend that one arrive at a horn bow; self bow, backed bow, then horn bow. Congrats.

I for one enjoy paint. It says in the Danurveda not to shoot an undecorated bow.

Hi Lukas,nice bow,the artwork is very well made:how did you do that?
"I for one enjoy paint":me too.
Congrats.
Francesco

I dont know a lot of painting technique, painting made my friend, but how I realy dont know

Nice bow, Lukasz :lol: .Lukasz post his bow in our Lukostrelec.cz /archer/ forum and mi first reaction was- hey, isnt it only Grozer bow vith new skin and string nocks ? :lol:

Congrats. Work of art.

Cem

Gorgeous.

top.

great shape, let's see it in action

video with bow. Shoot fast with light arrows , on video I use very light arrows about 24 gram not 9 gpp. Draw stack on 25/26 inch , bow is not easy in use. In future I must make longer bow or working handle area or something else, I must think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7hGNBGI ... e=youtu.be

CoooL :shock: When it's unstrung it looks like a SNAKE!

lukasznawalny wrote:

thanks for nice words. it is hickory core , 3 mm horn , 3 layers sinew. limbs 3 cm - 2,3 cm. Leather and hickory make bow little to havy , about 430 gram
but I think bow will be not slow, we will see on chrono.I try to make video from shooting in this weekend.

HORN?

thanks for the "bow in action" scenes.
thumbs up !

Lukas; 190 is a good speed. It is possible the string is hitting your cuff on release absorbing some of the power. You might try wearing a smooth strong leather arm guard over the jacket for trials. I prefer rawhide armguards.

speed is not bad but shooting comfort not high. I think deflex area should be a little closer to handle, give longer working part of limbs and longer draw.I start to make 3 scythian style bows, so I make few experiments, we will see

Lukas; Have you seen Stephen's long post on the Yanghai bows and their construction?

I have read this great article http://www.atarn.org/chinese/Yanghai/Sc ... _ATARN.pdf . Maybe I will try make similar reproduction , bows looks amazing but I worry about dynamic with so deflexive design. I like Nowotnys scythian bows , it is no replica but I think shoots very good

I like your bow and I like all hand made bows and I especially respect a shooting composite but if one really wants to say something about a Scythian bow then it should be a Scythian bow.

Two thousand years of technical improvements separates Scythian from Turkish bows.

another attempt , 108 cm , 50 lb at 28" . This one without stacking , easy pull to 28 , possible 30". Bow mass 300 gram , shoot well , 185 fps 9gpp at 28"
http://www.fotosik.pl/pokaz_obrazek/3a2 ... ec6d4.html

awsome ! thanks for sharing.

two new horn bows 40 - 45 lb , one in leather , second in cherry bark , arrows barelled with swan and hawk feathers, bows are not very fast about 175 fps 9 gpp but with light arrows shoots nice - 18 gram barelled arrow in flight style 240 - 250 meters

and one more

Piekne!

Oh lalaa. Clap hands from Finland to your work.

Scythian bows are piece of art.

Is it possible see some pictures how you did that monster...?

Juha

It is not traditional way, so it is not scythian bow replica, onle scythian style bows. I make core from one piece elm or hickory , glue only in handle. steam wood in steaming machine and make shape of horn strpis and wood in special forms. I use fish glue and cow or deer sinew. In deflex areas I use 3 layer sinew , near recurve only 1 . Tillering is similar like in wooden selfbows, without tepeliks.

Quite impressive! I always liked the scythian style. The cherrybark looks very interesting too. Was it harder to process compared to birchbark?

:shock:
wow congratulations.
& cherry bark looks nice..

Very pretty. Well done.

thanks guys for nice words. I work actually with turkish and crim tatar bows, so maybe soon I show you something more traditional

Very nice! Does the horn extend all the way to the end of the tips? I wonder if they have to given that the tips seem rather static.

I notice there are plenty of symmetrical Scythian type bows. Maybe it is my imagination but I see these most often on Greek pottery. (I can only suppose that there must have been Greek bow making workshops). But the bows of the Scyths are mostly asymmetric.

On these bows, the bends on the lower limb are all compressed and the deflex is more extreme so that the center of the bow occurs at a place where the grip is leaning forward. This helps the little and ring finger to make a firmer grip. On the symmetric versions this is difficult or impossible. With a tight grip from the lower hand, mechanics of Persian shooting and Kyudo would seem to apply.

As one draws the asymmetric bow, the bow hand rotates forward noticeably. But of course, when released, the string returns to the place of balance of brace. This is a feature of all the asymmetric bows I have shot but is very intense on Scyth short bows.

Yes, last 10 - 15 cm near recurve is in my bows static, bows are a little asymetric - lower limb is stronger, with thumb ring give symetric shape in ful draw, with 3 fingers lower limb have too much stress. I have made scythian for 3 finger user and bow was very asymetric

Sorry another stupid question.... The lengths you mentioned of about 105cm- are these along the curves?