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Bowhunting Anyone?

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wandyhee
Hi all,

just wondering if there is any member in here bowhunting using Asian Bow and thumb ring? I used to bowhunt small game using compound bow before, but now I want to try using Traditional Asian bow. Just need to build confident and accuracy first, before I proceed to bowhunting using traditional equipment :)
Todd the archer
Have bowhunted with a lot of different bows but not with a Asian style bow. I do have a fiberglass/wood laminated Hungarian style bow that I think I might take out. I don't shoot with a thumb ring though.

Honestly see no reason not to use one.

Todd
wandyhee
I think it would be very convenience to carry around in the woods since it's very light. Regarding thumb ring or finger release, its all up to personal preference. My only reason to use thumbring is to get longer draw length, anchor behind my ear. Now I'm no longer need to cut my arrows as my draw length increased by 2 inches from 27" (shooting compound with mechanical release) to 29" (traditional bow using thumb ring)
Bede
Mr Heon Kim from California told me that Korean bows were becoming more popular with hunters several years ago. Despite the bows being light and small, they can shoot heavy arrows very accurately over short distances. A small and physically light bow is very useful when stalking in areas with lots of small trees and shrubs.

However, practice with the bow is essential to get the most out of it so, before going hunting, really get to know how your bow performs in various situations.

If you want to use a thumb ring and practice blind nocking (nocking your arrow without having to look at the string), you should do very well. If you reduce the things you have to consciously think about while you are hunting you can concentrate on your target.
wandyhee
I'm still practicing 9 steps to 10 ring as basic reference:

1.Stance & posture
2.Nock
3.Set -hook string & place bowhand
4.Set-up
5.Draw/load
6.Anchor
7. Load & transfer then hold
8.Aim & expand
9.Release
10.Follow Through

I keep in mind: I will not go out there bowhunting and risking animal injury if I'm still not accurate and confident to hit target at 20 meters distance
Bede
In hunting, you might find it useful to keep aiming as you are drawing rather than aiming after you have reached full draw and have paused. Time is of the essence and, when your target is alive, it will not stand still for you to think about aiming. It is also good to draw very smoothly since rapid or jerky movements are easy for an animal to see.

Another thought about fletching is that four feathers or vanes mean you never have to check if the arrow is the right way round.
wandyhee
Thats sound weird, because from my own experience during gun hunting most of deer or wild boar will stand still while chewing their food, or at least walk slowly while sniffing the ground looking for food. Of course they will running if they noticed we're around or spooked. One thing for sure during night time if we pointed torch light directly toward them without making any noise, most animal will stand still and keep looking at the light until they hear some noise or get shot. Bowhunting video in YouTube also showing hunter really have time for aiming while these game busy chewing their foods.

As for now I only got 3 fletches fletching jig and it shouldn't be a big issue as most bow hunter usualy nocked the arrow ready while waiting on tree stand or in blind.
Todd the archer
What Bede is saying you don't know for sure how long an animal is going to stand still. Add the fact the hardest part is to get to full draw without the game seeing your movement and running off. Hunting at night with a light surely works great but for the most part is illegal here in the USA.

Todd
wandyhee
I think its practical to hold at full draw and let ourself settle at anchor point for 1 or 2 second aiming before release. Saw a lot of traditional bow hunter in YouTube video did that.
Bede
One thing that is different between hunting with a gun and hunting with a bow is that you have to be a lot closer to your prey with a bow. Most herbivores have only moderate eyesight relying more on smell and sound. If you are within 30 metres of an animal it is going to see you much better than if you are at 200 metres.

Check your YouTube videos of hunters to see how many are using compound bows. With a compound bow, holding for several seconds has little or no effect; the bows are designed for it. However, traditional bows are harder to hold at full draw and self bows in particular can be weakened by long holding. Another thing is even old hunting films were edited for dramatic effect. Anything that looks good on YouTube has probably been carefully edited by the person responsible. No archer wants to look bad on the internet. That being said some hunters are very still and can do a long hold and aim. In tree stands, it is not a bad thing if the bow is suitable.

It is important to shoot effectively and be very aware of what or who may be behind your intended target. It would be worthwhile to look at some bow hunting forums rather than get general advice from people like me.
wandyhee
In our tropical jungle we have very limited view since we don't have grass lands but instead most are Primary or secondary jungle. Maximum is about 20meters but most is 10 meters. sometimes 10 meters also hard to detect animal if they stand still. It's easier to detect something moving in thick jungle. Most of game taken at 5-15m distance during gun hunting.

This guy in the video for example; his favorite hunting is from tree stand

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0blqjmGSHZ0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krJFRTN4uZ0

but his hunting ground look very clear and easy to spot animal from distance. in our jungle most of the ground are covered by small plants