picture in the archive
In the Atarn archive pictures there is a pic (vol.9 - page 3 - Topview)) about "two tipes of shoulder draw". To what Atarn article or topic does it referred ?
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I think this came from Bede Dwyer. Can't recall the topic.
Stephen,
You are right. That looks like one of my drawings. I can't recall the context. I have looked through my stuff at home, but cannot find it.
It might have been to do with long draws. It relates to the position of the drawing hand's upper arm. One is in line with the shoulders and the other is not. I am looking through my archives to see if I kept the text of the message.
You are right. That looks like one of my drawings. I can't recall the context. I have looked through my stuff at home, but cannot find it.
It might have been to do with long draws. It relates to the position of the drawing hand's upper arm. One is in line with the shoulders and the other is not. I am looking through my archives to see if I kept the text of the message.
I'm sorry to tell you that it was actually me who did the drawing. The drawing was posted in a thread which I started in a very old atarn forum several years ago. There weren't any articles.
In that thread, I mentioned something about draw length equals half the archer's height. Adam Karpowicz, Bede Dwyer and Thomas Duvernay responded stating their draw lengths and heights disagreeing with the point brought up and so on and so forth.
Stephen Selby liked the drawing and pointed out that the head could also be "in the draw" as shown below.
I think the shoulder draw where the drawing hand's upper arm is in line with the shoulders is the most relax and efficient as the upper arm and shoulder joint is torque free and the drawing hand's arm is relax. Only back muscles are used during the draw and to hold the draw. The back is therefore tight which was mentioned in many archery manuscripts.
In that thread, I mentioned something about draw length equals half the archer's height. Adam Karpowicz, Bede Dwyer and Thomas Duvernay responded stating their draw lengths and heights disagreeing with the point brought up and so on and so forth.
Stephen Selby liked the drawing and pointed out that the head could also be "in the draw" as shown below.
I think the shoulder draw where the drawing hand's upper arm is in line with the shoulders is the most relax and efficient as the upper arm and shoulder joint is torque free and the drawing hand's arm is relax. Only back muscles are used during the draw and to hold the draw. The back is therefore tight which was mentioned in many archery manuscripts.
Soon-Chuang,
You must be right :D because the only drawings of mine I found were in a different style and for an article I haven't published yet. My drawings were concerned with head position for aiming. My apologies.
Using the back is critical to powerful shooting in many traditions.
You must be right :D because the only drawings of mine I found were in a different style and for an article I haven't published yet. My drawings were concerned with head position for aiming. My apologies.
Using the back is critical to powerful shooting in many traditions.