quiver pattens

Try the links to the Quiver and Bow Case Patterns at the bottom of the ATARN "Islamic and Middle Eastern Archery Traditions" page:

http://www.atarn.org/islamic/islamic.htm

Regards

Andrew

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The last pic.: shouldn`t it be twice? One for the bottom and one for thearrows on top? On Fletchers Corner is a pattern like this, maybe the same, but the part is the bottom of the quiver.

I made the quiver and the hole pattern is based on a 16th century Turkish quiver belonging to Ferdinand of Tyrol (a present from the Ottomans). The insert is at the top only. Having two inserts takes too long to load the quiver and limits the angles at which you can have the arrows.

Not all Turkish quivers had this type of insert. I made it for Dr Grayson's flight and target arrows. Technically a quiver like this would have been for warfare and taken arrows with small bodkin points.

Yes, so the wedge- shaped bottom will fix the arrowheads in a tight position. It prevents rattling and jumping or even loosing the arrows while riding on a horse.

very good picture you are posted!

The base of the Turkish quiver is a pointed-oval, wooden insert. The arrows are firmly held by the top insert. The constriction toward the middle of the quiver has the effect of bring the shafts together. This kind of quiver was not particularly noisy, but for horseback quivers this is not so important since a warrior had so many rattling pieces of equipment tied to his body.

What is important is making it easy to draw the arrows from the quiver without looking. Spaced apart arrwos make a difference.

But these bows were not only shot from horseback. So I think, its an willing effect of this construction, that the arrows don`t rattle in this quiver.

There is no reason not to make them quiet. However, it is important to keep in mind how they were used and not think that you have failed to make a good reproduction because does not do something the original could not.

I lined the mouth of one Turkish quiver with sheepskin. The Manchus had felt spacers and screw tighteners to hold the arrows in place. Some Tibetan quivers had soft leather spacers. Old Mongol quivers had a leopard tail would in between the arrows. The last one works well. I used fake leopard skin to make the tail.

I didn't realize that the quivers were worn with the arrows pointing behind rather than forward.

What do you mean by "the base" (The base of the Turkish quiver is a pointed-oval, wooden insert) can you show me a pic of the "base"?

I made a nice quiver and now I am ripping it down to make it more like this one that Dr. Grayson is showing. I had a feeling something was wrong.

I would like to know though what is meant by base.

The common use of quivers with the tails of the arrows pointing forward was developed in Western archery in the twentieth century. The Koreans separately developed placing the arrows in a sash with the nocks forward.

By the base of the quiver, I mean the opposite ent to the mouth. In an open quiver, this is where the arrow heads rest. By pointed oval, I mean its cross section in relation to the whole quiver. I will post some pictures.