The Swedish bowpress
After some bows I had to make some kind of bracing tool. So I made this.
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The bow is put on and the tie strap at the limb, then I just slide the straps closer to tip and look how it bends. Then I draw the tips down and have control of twist and unevenness.
I can see the brace hight, I can adjust the tiller and more. Tepliks can be put on. The weight of limbs can be measured.
When all is fine, just pull the bolts and lift of the fork from bottom and shoot :)
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About the bow, its made from broken bow parts from 4 other bows :)
46" 68lb at 26" belly, 68% with 5.5grains/lb or 220fps. One long horn strip from a broken 120lb bow the other shorter from my old high speed 80 lb, sinew from my 43" bow. Ears have been on two other bows, horn under handle from Puzios broken Dicks horn strip bow, horn under kasan from some broken horn part :)
Don't throw your broken bows, reuse them.
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The bow is put on and the tie strap at the limb, then I just slide the straps closer to tip and look how it bends. Then I draw the tips down and have control of twist and unevenness.
I can see the brace hight, I can adjust the tiller and more. Tepliks can be put on. The weight of limbs can be measured.
When all is fine, just pull the bolts and lift of the fork from bottom and shoot :)
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About the bow, its made from broken bow parts from 4 other bows :)
46" 68lb at 26" belly, 68% with 5.5grains/lb or 220fps. One long horn strip from a broken 120lb bow the other shorter from my old high speed 80 lb, sinew from my 43" bow. Ears have been on two other bows, horn under handle from Puzios broken Dicks horn strip bow, horn under kasan from some broken horn part :)
Don't throw your broken bows, reuse them.
That is pretty cool, wonder if it could be adapted as a heavy bow stringer for horn bows. Always looking for a really safe way to string a heavy bow by myself. Sure would be nice to string with little danger of limb twisting and so forth.
Oberon
Oberon
Latham and Paterson in Saracen Archery describe a similar device called a kharkuman, which was used for bracing strong bows. Expanding on your method of using the frame, I imagine that in combination with tepeliks, you could brace very strong bows with a device like this. The Koreans use their clamping device in a similar manner. You start with one strap, insert the strung limb of the bow and bend it down until you can either slip the other end of the string onto the bow tip you are holding or, with a twisty bow, tie it down and let it settle.
Good, practical ideas are often reinvented and new uses found. Congratulations.
Good, practical ideas are often reinvented and new uses found. Congratulations.
Ten years ago, Munkhtsetseg made one of these at my home using six bricks and the flat top of an iron railing. 8)
:) bricks and rail will do but are not so nice in saddle or car seat.
Saddle? :shock:Redhorse wrote:
:) bricks and rail will do but are not so nice in saddle or car seat.
If you are out on plains with horses. Then you can bring it with you: ) and also if you take your car and need to have a press with you.
Hi!
I am going to make a device for bracing bows that should work for any unstrung shape and draw weight. A friend is helping me with the engineering and since he is on vacation and also very busy at work, I don't think it will be ready before end of July. It is planned as a safe device for bracing a bow for the first time, which I found is not easy, so I don't know if it is going to turn out easily transportable. However I guess one can always brace the bow at home and then drive to the shooting place. I will post pictures and a technical drawing when it's done!
Kind regards,
Daniel
I am going to make a device for bracing bows that should work for any unstrung shape and draw weight. A friend is helping me with the engineering and since he is on vacation and also very busy at work, I don't think it will be ready before end of July. It is planned as a safe device for bracing a bow for the first time, which I found is not easy, so I don't know if it is going to turn out easily transportable. However I guess one can always brace the bow at home and then drive to the shooting place. I will post pictures and a technical drawing when it's done!
Kind regards,
Daniel
I would be very interested in seeing any ideas on string devices for horn bows that would help in preventing twisting and such.
Alan
Alan
Good device, Redhorse!!
I wonder if you are able to string the bow, I mean putting on the string without tepeliks, only with your device. If it?s possible, it is probably tricky...
best regards, JJ
I wonder if you are able to string the bow, I mean putting on the string without tepeliks, only with your device. If it?s possible, it is probably tricky...
best regards, JJ
I do never use tepliks.
Are tepliks used every time a horn bow is strung or just the first few times to train the limbs as it were?
I have a horn bow ordered from Lukas at Saluki bows and wish to take the best care of it possible.
Alan
I have a horn bow ordered from Lukas at Saluki bows and wish to take the best care of it possible.
Alan
I understand Tepliks are used during the taming process before the bow is finished. Turks, Chinese and Koreans used it as a standard bowyer tool.
Thanx Jose this is what I was thinking.
Alan
Alan
The step-through technique can be used for bow below 70lb if not too reflexed. I use my bow press alone for bows below 100lb and tepeliks (and the press) for bows above 100lb. The job is much easier with the tepeliks.
Adam
Adam
Adam,
Could we see a photo or diagram of your bow press?
Alan
Could we see a photo or diagram of your bow press?
Alan
Sure, here it is. The supports can move freely to accomodate all bows. The limbs are supported by padded rollers. I put a similar picture in my book.
Adam, what an interesting bow. Is that a short Crim-Tartar bow?
Thank you Adam,
That is a very nice looking bow press, looks quite well thought out and well constructed.
Do you think that this press would work well with a highly re flexed bow like a Mughal crab bow?
I concur with Jos'e the bow is very nice and quite interesting.
I Do plan on getting your book, where is the best place to order from? Direct from you? Order info please.
All the best,
Alan
That is a very nice looking bow press, looks quite well thought out and well constructed.
Do you think that this press would work well with a highly re flexed bow like a Mughal crab bow?
I concur with Jos'e the bow is very nice and quite interesting.
I Do plan on getting your book, where is the best place to order from? Direct from you? Order info please.
All the best,
Alan
In Korean hornbows is tepeliks(dojigae) inevitable for or all his live :shock:
This bow was intended as a Turco-Korean hybrid with a bamboo core. The press can accomodate crab bows, although the supports may have to be reversed on the horizontal beam to allow more space for the curved limbs. For the very reflexed bows the tepeliks are needed to pre-bend the limbs too.
The book is available from www.ottoman-turkish-bows.com
Adam
The book is available from www.ottoman-turkish-bows.com
Adam
Thank you again Adam for the info and the photo.
Alan
Alan
Adam,
Are the supports reversible on your bow press?
Alan
Are the supports reversible on your bow press?
Alan
Beautiful handcraft on that press.
I think its easier to brace when the straps can slide from handle to tips. That way you can have much reflex because the support moves all time below handle. And you can have different weights in limbs and still draw it in balance.
The bow I had in the press had two failure with one kasan. The horn is butt splice 2" from eye and come of twice at brace with the result that the kasan wood bent but did not break more then I just could bend it back. Now with thicker horn and sinew binding it seems to hold. But I have 10 grams more mass and lost some speed. I scrape it down to 65 lb at 26" belly and shot 378grains at 209 fps.
I think its easier to brace when the straps can slide from handle to tips. That way you can have much reflex because the support moves all time below handle. And you can have different weights in limbs and still draw it in balance.
The bow I had in the press had two failure with one kasan. The horn is butt splice 2" from eye and come of twice at brace with the result that the kasan wood bent but did not break more then I just could bend it back. Now with thicker horn and sinew binding it seems to hold. But I have 10 grams more mass and lost some speed. I scrape it down to 65 lb at 26" belly and shot 378grains at 209 fps.