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china TV introduce chinese weapen and archery

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stiventiger
Hi
Pls see:
http://fangtan.cntv.cn/program/wafm/201 ... 0993.shtml
but it is in chinese,but you can see chinese sword and knife etc and also you can see ride and shoot and some chinese horn bow(not good quality but with big name,all know here)and another bow testing ,at least person will understand something about china archery now
just for fun
jiao
i think if some thing not fine because some man growing in institutional revolution times, they are ingenious do without any knowledge, the clerisy and expert is "feculent 9", a high-class chef use his free time do the research that the earth has no attraction the air pressure make efficiency,why steam up not down, i can not reply anything to him :shock:
mongolianarcher
so are you saying wangfuxi is not a good bow maker?
Stephen Selby
Yang Fuxi's bows are very variable in quality but getting better.
Let's remember the background: professional bow-making in Qing China was never a one-man activity. Eight or ten people worked cooperatively, specializing in wood, bamboo, sinew, horn, glue, decoration... That was actually the key to the great quality of old bows.
There are a few in China now making good hornbows by themselves; but they are not tackling the classic Qing design - they are always falling back on the simpler designs like imperial Mongol and Turkish.
Now we are asking one man to do everything, but there is no tradition to back him up. So we should be patient and supportive.
jiao
i am never buy and shoot the hornbow of juyuanhao, i feel his bow too soft and hard can not control them well, so i can not say more about he is a good or bad bowyer, in any case he can share more base knowledge we are not know it , a man worth while esteem, but in china seemed institutional revolution continue,peoples happy join the party of animadvert they are not see a good side of a man only see bad side
stiventiger
i don't speak as i don't know,just for fun to list this link,but i guess things will get better and better
jiao
stephen, did you see some greet qing hornbow save to now and how greet it is? i has some guess, after qianlong emperor the emperor and soldier lost lots stronger, so bowyer cut down the draw weight so pool performance,or qing house bow especially design the shoot range max for 60M?
mongolianarcher
We have to be optimistic, like all bowyers, it takes time to learn the craft. He will never get anything but better as time goes on.
Stephen Selby

jiao wrote:

stephen, did you see some greet qing hornbow save to now and how greet it is? i has some guess, after qianlong emperor the emperor and soldier lost lots stronger, so bowyer cut down the draw weight so pool performance,or qing house bow especially design the shoot range max for 60M?

Jiao, yes I have seen very strong Qing bows. But it is hard to know if they were for archery or for doing strength test in the Military Examination (即武举考所用的?号弓?). Both in early Qing and late Qing we can see strong bows and soft bows.

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WarBow
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=KbR6CDsItz0

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Justin Ma

WarBow wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ml3gypF23g (Chu State Composite Bow)

I have a really, really hard time believing that the depicted Chu composite bow is supposed to have a deflex design (instead of a reflex design). I'm inclined to think the CG artists made a mistake.

Can anyone familiar with that particular excavated bow verify one way or the other?
Justin Ma
Man... I was hoping Yokhua would get a chance to shoot his bows inside the studio.

Anyways, for a segment that's titled "Ancient Chinese Bows, Crossbows, Concealed Weapons," they seem to have focused an inordinate amount of time on Mongolian customs.
jiao
a good news, the son yangyi of yangfuxi has studay make the bow form his father at 2006(this is news here), he do the boss of juyuanhao but he can not make the hornbow by hemself still need help , and yangfuxi move to a rural area near beijing pay all time and no interferential to do a good hornbow，yangfuxi said he can got 80% for his father， his father got same also，yangfuxi studay very fast has no more time from his father（cancer）

yangyi
http://titanimg.titan24.com/news/2009/0 ... 967856.jpg

yangfuxi
http://i3.sinaimg.cn/dy/o/2009-09-18/12 ... rBLfcV.jpg

stephen buy 20 hornbows when juyuanhao one year sell one hornbow
Uli

Justin Ma wrote:

Man... I was hoping Yokhua would get a chance to shoot his bows inside the studio.

Argh, exactly :roll: