Some Ottoman miniatures
This is a work about Ottoman miniatures.
The good thing is you can zoom in quite nicely and see some details e.g. of hunting or battle scenes.
http://www.belgeler.com/blg/1fxl/arifi- ... leymanname#
Attached I show you 2 details. One is Kanuni (the later Sultan Suleiman the magnificient) and Selim hunting. The other pic is the archery show of the sipahis in front of Kanuni page 197
Interesting is that in the sipahi archery show the painter seemingly wanted to show the different stages of shooting the bow.
Thought you might be interested..
Gokmen
The good thing is you can zoom in quite nicely and see some details e.g. of hunting or battle scenes.
http://www.belgeler.com/blg/1fxl/arifi- ... leymanname#
Attached I show you 2 details. One is Kanuni (the later Sultan Suleiman the magnificient) and Selim hunting. The other pic is the archery show of the sipahis in front of Kanuni page 197
Interesting is that in the sipahi archery show the painter seemingly wanted to show the different stages of shooting the bow.
Thought you might be interested..
Gokmen
thank u gokmen it is very interessing: I have seen the whole text
Please can u explaint more the way that the rider stand onj horse?
In some pics the rider seem seated on the saddle but in many other the rider seem to stand straight on the stirrups.Do you think that stirrups are shorts or long?
I "m sorry for my "english"
Please can u explaint more the way that the rider stand onj horse?
In some pics the rider seem seated on the saddle but in many other the rider seem to stand straight on the stirrups.Do you think that stirrups are shorts or long?
I "m sorry for my "english"
Hi Jak,
long time no see, hope you are doing well.
Yes in many or maybe most Ottoman miniatures you see them standing in the stirrups while they shoot the arrow.
The stirrups are ''short'' (what they call ''English style'' today) so in this way you can stand on them and have an ''air cushion'' between your bum and the saddle.
It is problematic to sit because, if you are a good rider, your bum should stick to the saddle while in galopp, your hip movements should absorb the up and down movements of the horse.
However this changes the angles of the whole body and you cannot use the archery muscles you are used to.
One should stand in the stirrups so that the legs absorb the up and down movements. The upper body will be very calm and stable as if you are standing on the ground. Drawing the bow and aiming (even if instinctive) goes much easier. And for original bow drawweights of 80-90-100lbs+ I dont think it is possible at all to sit at galopp and draw the bow.
It is funny because the Europeans used to ride with very long stirrups and in the 18th cc they became a big fan of Ottoman style riding and Ottoman horses. They changed their tack, their horses and their riding style, and rebranded and promoted it as ''English style riding with English horses'' :roll:
I recommend an interesting book on this topic:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Noble-Brutes-Ea ... 801890284/
Gokmen
long time no see, hope you are doing well.
Yes in many or maybe most Ottoman miniatures you see them standing in the stirrups while they shoot the arrow.
The stirrups are ''short'' (what they call ''English style'' today) so in this way you can stand on them and have an ''air cushion'' between your bum and the saddle.
It is problematic to sit because, if you are a good rider, your bum should stick to the saddle while in galopp, your hip movements should absorb the up and down movements of the horse.
However this changes the angles of the whole body and you cannot use the archery muscles you are used to.
One should stand in the stirrups so that the legs absorb the up and down movements. The upper body will be very calm and stable as if you are standing on the ground. Drawing the bow and aiming (even if instinctive) goes much easier. And for original bow drawweights of 80-90-100lbs+ I dont think it is possible at all to sit at galopp and draw the bow.
It is funny because the Europeans used to ride with very long stirrups and in the 18th cc they became a big fan of Ottoman style riding and Ottoman horses. They changed their tack, their horses and their riding style, and rebranded and promoted it as ''English style riding with English horses'' :roll:
I recommend an interesting book on this topic:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Noble-Brutes-Ea ... 801890284/
Gokmen