Turkish quiver questions
Have to make a Turkish war quiver and bow case for a museum. Have limited time and money for it...
Looking for pics on the net and found this nice simple piece.
They want something like in 15. century was.
This 17. century piece could fits formaly?
https://mail-attachment.googleuserconte ... c&sadssc=1
The pic is from this book http://www.amazon.com/The-Arts-Muslim-K ... 76248773/2
which I haven't got.
If anyone have it, please help me out with more pics from this, if there is any.
Other wise a bit stuck with the belts on it. Found the topics with Bedes descriptions, may he could help how this could looking exactly.
Thanks for any help! Zoltan
Looking for pics on the net and found this nice simple piece.
They want something like in 15. century was.
This 17. century piece could fits formaly?
https://mail-attachment.googleuserconte ... c&sadssc=1
The pic is from this book http://www.amazon.com/The-Arts-Muslim-K ... 76248773/2
which I haven't got.
If anyone have it, please help me out with more pics from this, if there is any.
Other wise a bit stuck with the belts on it. Found the topics with Bedes descriptions, may he could help how this could looking exactly.
Thanks for any help! Zoltan
I don't remember any quivers earlier than the mid seventeenth century in that book. I can't see the link, but if you give me the page reference I can look it up.
The earliest Turkish quiver I have seen in a European collection is the one given to Ferdinand of Tyrol now in the Vienna Kunsthistorisches Museum, Waffensammlung. It was registered in the collection of Castle Ambras in 1603, but is believed to have been made between 1525 and 1550.
This quiver was never mounted and does not have the holes for the straps and their decorative metal fittings but it does have blank areas in the design for them and on the back (i.e. the inside face) is a leather keeper to hold the third suspension strap. This would have be because the keeper had to be sewn on before the quiver was stitched together while the holes could be punched afterwards. It has a spacer sewn in the mouth with multiple holes for individual arrows.
The earliest Turkish quiver I have seen in a European collection is the one given to Ferdinand of Tyrol now in the Vienna Kunsthistorisches Museum, Waffensammlung. It was registered in the collection of Castle Ambras in 1603, but is believed to have been made between 1525 and 1550.
This quiver was never mounted and does not have the holes for the straps and their decorative metal fittings but it does have blank areas in the design for them and on the back (i.e. the inside face) is a leather keeper to hold the third suspension strap. This would have be because the keeper had to be sewn on before the quiver was stitched together while the holes could be punched afterwards. It has a spacer sewn in the mouth with multiple holes for individual arrows.
Thanks Bede
here is the link again http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/N ... 17th_C.jpg
Yes I've got the Wiena museum pics....
those are very decorative ones, more than my project could handle.
Hope could find a good compromise!
here is the link again http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/N ... 17th_C.jpg
Yes I've got the Wiena museum pics....
those are very decorative ones, more than my project could handle.
Hope could find a good compromise!
The caption in the book has a date of the second half of the 17th century (1651-1700) and suggests the bow case and quiver might have been captured in 1683 at the siege of Vienna. In Treasures of Islam, the date is given as circa 1683 based on its style in comparison with others in Karlsruhe etc.
I think you can take some consolation in the fact that highly decorated quivers were probably always in the minority. Plain leather quivers, when carefully made with good proportions, always look good. Simple appliqu?, incising and even painting the leather were all used and are easier to attempt as a first project.
I think you can take some consolation in the fact that highly decorated quivers were probably always in the minority. Plain leather quivers, when carefully made with good proportions, always look good. Simple appliqu?, incising and even painting the leather were all used and are easier to attempt as a first project.