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about turkish hornbow

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jiao
how did the part of hornbow works(the straight part below the ear and up the curve )? form unstring to strings to draw it , it has not distortion, so it not works?
jiao


the straight part below the ear and up the curve part
Adam Karpowicz
The section below the tips is rigid - it does not bend. The transition between this section and the section that bends is not rigid and bends to a varying degree.

In Korean bows this section is not rigid, only a little stiffer than the rest of limb.


Adam
jiao
hehe the limb is not works completely but result is very fast, the energy concentrated anear on gripe not on the middle of limb, can i take these section in limb as a long siyah? that section real need horn ? a short horn in the bend section enough?

ps : how long the turkish hornbow unstring, string, string to handle,the arrow head to the handle when the arrow has draw enough length waiting shoot?

thanks
Adam Karpowicz
The rigid section has less horn. In flight bows and some others, horn is thinned in this section to end about 2-3 inches under the tips. The average length of bows is 42 to 43 inches nock-to-nock and brace height is 6 to 8 inches. The draw length is no more than 29 inches. On this picture I did not draw the bow to the end.

Adam
jiao
adam

how many style/sort hornbow in turkish( evolutive in history)? any picture form fresco/brushwork each dynasty of turkish?
Adam Karpowicz
Jiao:

There were several types depending on use: war (tirkesh), target (puta), flight (menzil), kepade (practice) and zarb (for show of strength and penetration).

The known shapes were crescent moon (hilal - for flight bows), boat (tekne - for war bows) and kabza kuram for bows with set-back grip. I believe these terms were used to describe certain characteristics of shape, and not necessarily relate to the type of use. Only infantry bows and maybe kepade were longer, the rest is impossible to tell apart on the basis of length. Also the shapes in unstrung position are very similar, although flight bows had a little longer kasan sections and grips slightly recurved. Sometimes the type of cover and decoration can help to identify the type of bow.

Artistic representations can not be trusted to represent any specific types.

Adam
Tanakan

Adam Karpowicz wrote:

Jiao:

There were several types depending on use: war (tirkesh), target (puta), flight (menzil), kepade (practice) and zarb (for show of strength and penetration).

Artistic representations can not be trusted to represent any specific types.

Adam

Hello Adam. Are they another differentiation of bow names in Turkish Archery because you has mentioned kepade is "Kepaze" and zarb is "Zırh" as I know.
Metin Ates
you're wrong Tanakan. It's about old Turkish writing.
"z" letter writes as "d" in many times (see figure). So,

zarb is the same with darp (not zirh!) and mean is strike.
also kepaze is the same with kepade.

Like Ramazan is the same with Ramadan, (the holly month's name)