Turkish bow
Dear All,
I just finished target bow. 104cm ntn.
Cem
I just finished target bow. 104cm ntn.
Cem
Another,
Another,
Is a horn bow?
İt is a horn bow, I use maple , w.bufallo horn, moose snew, snew and sturgeon bladder glue. 2 year to finish.Back is covered by vegetable tanned leather.Im not good enough for painting yet so I do not decorate it.
Cem
Cem
Very nice bow!
Can show some pictures with the bow unstrung?
Can show some pictures with the bow unstrung?
unstrung bow
Congratulation Cem, very fine and impressing work you did!
Peter
Peter
That is a very nice bow, what is the pull weight?
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it is a nice bow, where you got this maple ? so symmetrical the tree growth each year, in my province of north china the dark layer only 1-2MM(which layer growth in autumn), it is faultlessly look form pcture, i need go south got the wood for the core?
it is a nice bow, where you got this maple ? so symmetrical the tree growth each year, in my province of north china the dark layer only 1-2MM(which layer growth in autumn), it is faultlessly look form pcture, i need go south got the wood for the core?
G?zel yay. Pardon my bad Turkish, but it is a pretty bow. We will all appreciate any details of its draw length and weight.
Bede:
Thanks for ''g?zel yay''. Bow is 104 cm ntn, sal(bending section) is 21cm (1.1cm thick, 3.3cm width), kasan 17 cm,tip 9 cm. Draw lenght is 66 cm( from belly).I do not test draw weight .
Jiao:
Maple is from Russia ,it is air dried. Maple is well grown in Turkey( best mild and cold climate) .Maple is grow fast in mild climate and grains become thick.Old Turkish bowyers(kemanger) used fresh shoot.
Best to you all.
Cem
Thanks for ''g?zel yay''. Bow is 104 cm ntn, sal(bending section) is 21cm (1.1cm thick, 3.3cm width), kasan 17 cm,tip 9 cm. Draw lenght is 66 cm( from belly).I do not test draw weight .
Jiao:
Maple is from Russia ,it is air dried. Maple is well grown in Turkey( best mild and cold climate) .Maple is grow fast in mild climate and grains become thick.Old Turkish bowyers(kemanger) used fresh shoot.
Best to you all.
Cem
Very beautiful there friend. The red color compliments the bow very well 8)
I agree with Raygun, the bow has subtle beauty and exquisite curves. You are very talented.
scemdonmez:
Old Turkish bowyers(kemanger) used fresh shoot
what are "fresh" shoot?
i'm interest turkish history but can not find it , can you help me more about turkish history?
thanks
Old Turkish bowyers(kemanger) used fresh shoot
what are "fresh" shoot?
i'm interest turkish history but can not find it , can you help me more about turkish history?
thanks
Cem; The recurves look to be layered, then edge grooved. The grip piece looks grooved likewise. Are these Ottoman techniques? This is a very beautiful bow and congratulations. Jack.
Very nice Turkish bow !
The bow looks very good when finished and strung but berfore, my first impression was that this bow looks a bit massive in the kasan and in the bash.
Is it something like 85 pounds ?
The kasan is particularly thick and longer than the sal.
Why is it so ?
I thought target bow were made longer and with shorter kasan than sal ??
What is the physical weight ?
Is it absolutely necessary to groove the fishtail joints ?
Jack,
Paul Klopsteg after Hein and Kani quotes : the fishtail joints are grooved with the tashiin.
I suppose the difficult place is the transition between kasan and sal.
I see that the kasan ridge is going over this place which remains flexible at full draw ?
Would you please show us the bow strung but in horizontal position ?
Thank you
:D
The bow looks very good when finished and strung but berfore, my first impression was that this bow looks a bit massive in the kasan and in the bash.
Is it something like 85 pounds ?
The kasan is particularly thick and longer than the sal.
Why is it so ?
I thought target bow were made longer and with shorter kasan than sal ??
What is the physical weight ?
Is it absolutely necessary to groove the fishtail joints ?
Jack,
Paul Klopsteg after Hein and Kani quotes : the fishtail joints are grooved with the tashiin.
I suppose the difficult place is the transition between kasan and sal.
I see that the kasan ridge is going over this place which remains flexible at full draw ?
Would you please show us the bow strung but in horizontal position ?
Thank you
:D
Redbow, this bow was made for stability and the ease of tillering. so the kasan sections are wider than usual. Also the longer kasan helps stability, since the bending sections become short. It is a heavy bow approaching a 100lb. So it is a hybrid.
Target bows were not necessarily longer than other types. Sometimes bowyers would make a bow longer for the ease of draw - so called "loose fit".
Adam
Target bows were not necessarily longer than other types. Sometimes bowyers would make a bow longer for the ease of draw - so called "loose fit".
Adam
Jiao:
Fresh shoot is young bough.I can help you about Turkish history.I will be in Korea for archery festival,do you?
Jack ,Redbow:
I do not use layer for recurve, wood is solid.I bend it in hot water.Grip and limb grooved likewise and fit exactly.Old Turkish bowyers used shallow groove for glued grip to limb,it is my preference.
I do not know draw weigh exactly but it is 17kg in 43 cm.
I send horizontal position pic.
Adam:
Thank you for all.
Cem
Sorry for my English.
Fresh shoot is young bough.I can help you about Turkish history.I will be in Korea for archery festival,do you?
Jack ,Redbow:
I do not use layer for recurve, wood is solid.I bend it in hot water.Grip and limb grooved likewise and fit exactly.Old Turkish bowyers used shallow groove for glued grip to limb,it is my preference.
I do not know draw weigh exactly but it is 17kg in 43 cm.
I send horizontal position pic.
Adam:
Thank you for all.
Cem
Sorry for my English.
Thank you Adam and Scem for the answers.
What is the physical weight of the bow ?
What is the physical weight of the bow ?
hehe , i am wrong tack the word turk,turkey,turkish. the turk in chinese called 突厥 in china tang dynasty, and who take the Hun( north XIONGNU, in year A.D. 43) as his ancestor(i am not sure it is accurate and more people accept it ) , the turk in year A.D 658 move to middle Asia, so ,the early history of turk and hun must got in china
and what importance, in chinese early history, our ancestor huangdi 's offspring which one is called hun :shock: perhaps our common ancestor of human sadly for his offspring war forever
and what importance, in chinese early history, our ancestor huangdi 's offspring which one is called hun :shock: perhaps our common ancestor of human sadly for his offspring war forever
Full Draw, 72 cm
This is a great bow!
How does it shoot?
Can you measure speed?
What about handshock?
This is a very nice bow, it does not need more decoration, beauty can be in very simple things... :)
How does it shoot?
Can you measure speed?
What about handshock?
This is a very nice bow, it does not need more decoration, beauty can be in very simple things... :)
Sbartels,
I can not test the speed but it is very fast and no handshock.Thank you for your comment.
Cem
I can not test the speed but it is very fast and no handshock.Thank you for your comment.
Cem