Turkish Bow(gold on Black)

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Though I am not a lover of Turkish bows, your workmanship is is truly amazing. Like the other bows you have posted, this is another masterpiece.

Alessi bow looks great. How long does it wait for drying period?

Cem

Whow, really amazing. Looks great.

Do you have a fuill-draw picture?

Hello,I waited about 6 weeks before tillering the bow.I tried to post a picture of the drawn bow but I reached the max upload amount.

Francesco

How do you get the backs so smooth ? Is the sinew that smooth under the bark?

Amazing work.

Beautiful bow!
What have you put over the sinew and what kind of paint are you using

Hi,the sinew is not that smooth as it could seem in the pictures.I covered it with thin silk fabric,the I coat it with copal varnish,the same I use mixed with brass powder to make the decorations.

Francesco

Francesco,

Absolutely the most BEAUTIFUL Turkish recurve I've ever seen! The detailed artwork, graceful flow of the limbs and syhas are just fantastic! I have a few questions:

-What is the dark material spliced into the tips of the syhas?

I've noticed that the belly of the grip is non-existent on Turkish recurves. I have a Saluki 'Turk' (a modern replica with a design based on the Turkish horn/sinew bow, made of glass and wood). I bought it unfinished with a bulky riser so that I could re-shape it to my preferences. Now more questions:

-Why are the Turkish grip bellies flat?
-Does this shape lend itself to accurate thumbring shooting?
-Is there a specific way of gripping a Turkish recurve with a grip of this shape?

As I mentioned, my grip has plenty of material on it to be pared down and shaped. I just want to pick the grip shape that will most benefit my shooting.

Thanks for your time in reading this. Any feedback is greatly appreciated!

Jason DuLac

Francesco, you've produced yet another excellent bow! What do you do with them all?

Jason,
I'd imagine the belly on the bow is flat because it's easier to shape the wood and sinew rather than shaping the horn.
The shaped handle allows your lower three fingers and the web of your hand to grip the bow. This has two advantages, firstly your index finger and thumb can relax and avoid injury from the arrow, and secondly the turning moment put on the bow by your grip can give a consistent follow-through.
You'll find more detailed instructions on how to use an 'Indo-Persian' or Turkish shaped handle in Arab Archery and Saracen Archery.

Regards

Mike

Mike,

THANKS!

I suspected as much about the grip pressures lightly focused on the middle, ring and little fingers, using the thumb/index web as a fulcrum for good follow through.

Do you know where can I get a copy or computer screen read-out of this information from Arab Archery or Saracen Archery?

J.

Hello Jason and Mike,the inlays on the ears are made of horn.Mike is right,it's easier to glue horn to a flat surface and also a flat belly grip bow is more stable than a setback grip bow.I don't shoot with thumb but with two or three fingers(western style).I grip the bow at the centre so the arrow pass about an inch over the middle.
Bye

Francesco

I think the plural of bash would be bashlar.

I would like to add to what has been written about the shape of Turkish, Persian and Indo-Persian grips. The ridged shape is very comfortable if you use the recommended grasp of the bow from either Saracen Archery or Arab Archery.

Until Murat sent me some photographs of Necmettin Okyay shooting, I was not as sure about the descriptions in Mustafa Kani's Telhis (as translated by Hein and Klopsteg). However, you can make sense of them with aid of the photographs and the grasp with a mushamma also works well with the ridged grip. The turning of the bow hand and its effect on the string position would not be possible without a grip that could be accurately controlled.

Hello alessi,
One more masterpiece !
I wonder how you can obtain such a light bow for this poundage !

Would you please show us what is the shape of your bows before tillering or even before sinewing ?
Bye
J?r?me

Mike,

Turns out I have a copy of some of 'Arab Archery' saved on my desktop, but didn't remember (gives you an idea of how cluttered my computer screen is)! Anyway, thanks for the hint and I found some great information in, 'XVI. On how to hold the grip of the bow with the left hand' of Arab Archery.

Also Francesco and Bede, thanks for the info on the grip shape! I'm thinking to give it the same basic shape as Francesco's grip but with slightly rounded/smoothed edges. That will make it much flatter, and broader than it currently is. It will still be slightly set back off the glass belly running through the riser. Kind of a compromise.

Again, beautiful work Francesco! Someday after I 'perfect' may thumbring form (HA!) I may tackle building a horn/sinew bow!

Thanks guys!

J.

Mi scuso in anticipo se scrivo in italiano
Ciao Alessio,non ho mai avuto il piacere di conoscerti anche se ti ho visto un paio di volte a bevagna e una volta a San Marino in occasione di qualche gara
Conosco per? il fortunato proprietario dell'arco che hai postato ed ho avuto l'occasione anche di provarlo,? eccezzionale.
Mi piacerebbe,se a te non disturba,fare 2 chiacchere sulle tecniche costruttive dei compositi
Ho sempre costruito archi semplici e tendinati
Da 1 anno ho preso passione per i compositi ma i risultati non sono certamente all'altezza del tuo
Se volessi darmi un tuo parere qui trovi alcuni dei miei archi
http://archi.pedrelli.eu/
Grazie per l'attenzione