new bow

A nice Magyar style is made by Siege Work Creations. It is glass with a wood core and ash siyahs. I think they are about $230. They are nice and light, smooth draw and not alot of hand shock. I think for the price they are a great bow. Dave is also a great guy and will work with you on what you want. The turn around time is also only about 3weeks.

Watch Ebay. There is a seller out of New York selling new Istvan Toth bows for about half price. Brand New. I recently picked up a Toth Mongol model for $139.00 - full price is normally $300. Heck of a bow. Heck of a deal.

Please, don't buy a Toth bow!
Those bows have so poor performance that nobody shoot them, even hungarian guys. Cheap, but very bad.
Try a Grozer!
You can find here cheap Kassai bows, much much better that Toth

http://www.turania.hu/catalog/index.php?cPath=28_30_53

Good luck!

Grozer's old Scythian base is a really good bow if you don't draw past 30 inches. It is fast and vicious with virtually no hand shock, esp. if you use the right technique. After 29 - 30 inches it does stack a fair bit though.

It is also one of his cheapest models.

I would definitly reccomend a Kassai over a Toth bow. I love my Kassai Hunter(Buzzard). I have not used a Grozer bow but they seem to have a very good reputation for fiberglass limb bows. I read a review, from another archer, on another archery website which gave an excellent accounting of the Magyar bow from Siege Works Creations.

I own a Siege Works (Magyar) and a Kassai Panther and I will say I think both bows are top shelf. My 13 year old daughter also shoots a Kassai Buzzard and claims it to be "The Best Bow in the World". So you can see why I am a little biased. My Siege Works is a great bow, I use it as my hunting bow because it throws a heavy arrow very fast and is very light in the hand. I think the Siege Works bow for the money is one of the best kept secrets in traditional archery. I do not practice mounted archery but I would think that the light weight of this bow would be an asset. The bowyer makes them custom for you so you can tell him how what type of glass (clear or black) and what color you would like your wrapping. For what it is worth I use a thumb draw and find the arrow pass to be cut well for that style of shooting. I also think like the Kassai bow it is cut so you can hold arrows in your bow hand for quick firing. I have also heard nothing but good things about James Parker's bows from Huntworthy and like Dave at Siege Works just a great guy. The Kassai Panther bow is just a great bow (smoothest drawing bow I have ever owned) but at more cost then the others mentioned.

Alan,
Huntworthy will be the best bow you can get for around that price. I guarantee it.

And you will find none better to work with.

Hands down one of the best that I have worked with. He has gone above and beyond for me and others say the same. And, he knows what he is doing when it comes to the ring. He shoots and hunts with the ring.

has anyone ever measured the speed of any of these bows? I wonder how they compare to horn and sinew bows

Big thank you to Alan for posting this topic on my behalf and to everyone for your helpful suggestions and comments, I have ordered my first bow from Huntworthy, hope to receive it in the New Year :D

I have the TRH Laminated Hungarian. It is sweet shooting, stable and dead accurate with either finger or thumb draw. It is also gorgeous.
So I very much like Grozers work :)

dragonman wrote:

has anyone ever measured the speed of any of these bows? I wonder how they compare to horn and sinew bows

I have chronoed one of my serpentine bows from huntworthy and it was about 220-225 and I am certain that some more proficient with the thumb ring would be able to get more out of it.

I am at a lost for what a actual hornbow would do. I've never seen any substantiated number anywhere.

It would be nice to know though.

I am very, very pleased with my bow, it's pretty, it's fast and much admired at my archery club. I'm using thumb draw with antler ring that I made, in fact I am astounded at the strength and velocity arrows fly from my bow.
Will have a go at making arrows next having had my first dozen wood arrows made for me. I am thoroughly enjoying Field Archery, my club has 13 acres of woodland, 3D targets as well as outlines and stuff and I love it.
Plan on attending a horse archery clinic in May and who knows maybe I'll get to an event in Europe or even Korea one of these days!!

If you're going for Grozer, go for his 'home turf' bows - Magyar and Hun - because that's where he puts his heart and he claims to get the best performance.

Yes thanks, now I need a second bow as there always seems to be someone else who wants to accompany me!! Import tax on my Huntworthy bow was a whopping ?42!! I don't know if this is because it was from the US or not. It is a super bow and I treasure it.
I like Grozer bows too, I used one at my first horseback archery training day. Now I've got my first bow I am prepared to wait a little longer to get one from Grozer of the draw weight I require. I will order a Junior Turkish bow, perhaps 30# or less for fun.

Photos of the new bow Em. Must show photos.
Alan

Congrats on the new bow. I hope you enjoy it-I have heard nothing but good things about James' bows.