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Mix glue of animal and fish.

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Mongol.khan
Now it is like this.
10$ is not much if youre bying a new car or a old horse, but it?s mutch if you are buying a unwaxed (or un parafined) dog chew bone.

So im wonder what part i can use if i caught a pike (fish).
Besides
scales
Bones
bladder
To make glue of.
Uli
you can make glue of all connective tissue (all white)
fish bones - don't know

best glue is made from the air bladder
remove all fat before cooking the glue !
Mongol.khan
So i can add the skin of the fish to then.
When you say the best glue, what exactly does it mean.
Im, looking for somthing that dont crack when dried, my dried stripes of hide glue do crack if i bend them to much.
And in the area where they crack they first change colour from brown to white.
And i can say they are not so tasty.
I could read somwhere somone consumed his fishbladder glue, i dont recomend the same with hideglue.
Uli
you need the tissue with collagen protein for the glue making
live collagen tissue is white, and dead dried is orange
most pure collagen tissue you get from tendon or - fish air bladder

in my experience the glue alone always cracks when bending the bow first time. but if you mix it with sinew fibers it only gets white and doesnt crack.

gelatin is the same as our glue and has no taste - most pure collagen.
my glues dont have a special taste as well :-)
PaleoNinja
Here is a list of glues in order from Strongest to weakest based on tests done in the Traditional Bowyers Bible Volume 1. This is on Page 206 so you know Im not making this up!

1) "two ton" Epoxy glue
2) Knox Gelatin
3) Pure Fish Bladder Glue
4) Cyanoacrolate- super glue
5) Hide Glue
6) Yellow Carpenters Glue
7) Collagen Glue made from Bone
8) Sinew Glue
9) Commercial Liquid Hide Glue
10) White Carpenters Glue
11) Rabbit Skin Canvas Sizing Glue
12) "Fish Glue" - I assume he means all parts of the fish including bones and bladder


While the test conducted here by Tim Baker might not be perfectly accurate, and that order might also not be perfect I think it gives us a good idea none-the-less of the relative strength of glues
Mongol.khan
Suposed even the hideglue is different in strenght from time to time.
To buy 2 tons of epoxy you would need money, and to get money you need a job.
Hmmm.
Then they better send somone to mars soon.
PaleoNinja
"2 ton" is simply the brand name, and it has this name because the company claims that the glue can withstand over 2,000 pounds of sheering force per square inch if applied properly
Mongol.khan
Oh, i get it.
Squere inch, metal to metal, wood to wood or what?
Sure hide glue is not anything for metal, ut it work fine with keramics.
So if the test where on metal, it is understandable epoxy is better.
Guess that the test includes bending the glue to, and how it reacts to bend.